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Cтатистика первого и второго фаворита по лошадям



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#21 OFFLINE   Karakas

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Добавлено 31 January 2012 - 10:43

А есть ли статистика по 3-му фавориту? по коофициенту 5,5 - 7

Отредактировано karakas, 31 January 2012 - 10:44.


#22 OFFLINE   kuz

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Добавлено 26 February 2012 - 07:41

Мне кажется ставить за и против судя по кф и не анализируя жокеев и тренеров в плюсе не будешь

#23 OFFLINE   Gandicap

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Добавлено 05 March 2012 - 08:26

Подскажите, пилиз, как скачать статистику с betfair

#24 OFFLINE   Karakas

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Добавлено 07 March 2012 - 05:07

http://data.betfair.com

#25 OFFLINE   Gandicap

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Добавлено 08 March 2012 - 13:14

Спасибо
Только там, к сожалению, весьма несвежая :-)

#26 OFFLINE   Снежок

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Добавлено 17 March 2012 - 17:43

Могу ошибаться конечно,но мне кажется что лэить фаворита стоит только на забегах с препятствиями, и при этом отдавать предпочтения покрытиям Hy и GS. Ну и без анализа формы лошади не обходиться,естественно.

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Добавлено 18 March 2012 - 11:15

СообщенияGandicap, on 08 March 2012 - 13:14, сказал:

Спасибо
Только там, к сожалению, весьма несвежая :-)

Как понять не свежая? :)

#28 OFFLINE   Gandicap

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Добавлено 18 March 2012 - 11:20

СообщенияoOo, on 18 March 2012 - 11:15, сказал:

Как понять не свежая? :)
Недельной давности

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Добавлено 18 March 2012 - 14:31

СообщенияGandicap, on 18 March 2012 - 11:20, сказал:

Недельной давности

так там понедельно обновляется помоему

#30 OFFLINE   vovan

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Добавлено 28 March 2012 - 22:58

прошу прощения доргие участники форума. наверно вы обозлитесь на меня, но я хотел попросить выложить у кого есть эту самую статистику с data.betfair по скачкам хотя бы за последние полгода 2011 года. облазил весь форум: в разных ветках есть выложенные файлы, но то ссылка устарела, то файл кривой, то еще чего-нибудь. В общем, сумел вытащить с форума файлы только за 5 недель, а этого для анализа мало. Давно уже хочется заняться этим вопросом, а вот 100 баллов на бф к сожалению нет.

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Добавлено 29 March 2012 - 00:29

Сообщенияvovan, on 28 March 2012 - 22:58, сказал:

прошу прощения доргие участники форума. наверно вы обозлитесь на меня, но я хотел попросить выложить у кого есть эту самую статистику с data.betfair по скачкам хотя бы за последние полгода 2011 года. облазил весь форум: в разных ветках есть выложенные файлы, но то ссылка устарела, то файл кривой, то еще чего-нибудь. В общем, сумел вытащить с форума файлы только за 5 недель, а этого для анализа мало. Давно уже хочется заняться этим вопросом, а вот 100 баллов на бф к сожалению нет.

В чем заключается анализ? Какой вид инструментов будет использоваться для анализирования?

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Добавлено 29 March 2012 - 11:32

СообщенияSpar, on 29 March 2012 - 00:29, сказал:



В чем заключается анализ? Какой вид инструментов будет использоваться для анализирования?
Хочу посмотреть прохдимость кэфов в том чиле в зависимости от времени ставки

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Добавлено 30 March 2012 - 06:59

Сообщенияvovan, on 29 March 2012 - 11:32, сказал:

Хочу посмотреть прохдимость кэфов в том чиле в зависимости от времени ставки

Для этого файл не подойдет, всю картинку движение не будет видно, для этого есть лучший инструмен
www.fracsoft.com/

#34 OFFLINE   vovan

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Добавлено 30 March 2012 - 10:37

СообщенияbKscan, on 30 March 2012 - 06:59, сказал:



Для этого файл не подойдет, всю картинку движение не будет видно, для этого есть лучший инструмен
www.fracsoft.com/
Ну почему же не подойдет. По каждой лошади для всех имевшихся кэфов имеются время первой и последней ставки, а это уже неплохая информация. Во-вторых если строить график в режиме инплей то мне кажется будет достаточно точным, так как длительность забега относительно небольшая и по большинству кэфов время первой и последней ставки совпадает

Ну так выложит кто-нибудь файлы?

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Добавлено 30 March 2012 - 12:16

Сообщенияvovan, on 30 March 2012 - 10:37, сказал:

Ну почему же не подойдет. По каждой лошади для всех имевшихся кэфов имеются время первой и последней ставки, а это уже неплохая информация. Во-вторых если строить график в режиме инплей то мне кажется будет достаточно точным, так как длительность забега относительно небольшая и по большинству кэфов время первой и последней ставки совпадает

Я думаю вряд ли можно по кэфам найти смысловую нить так как статистика лошадей уже есть в пубичных источниках
Или я не совсем понимаю ход твоих мыслей.

Например файл за последнюю неделю (12th Mar) коняга Just Beware начальный кэф 8 конечный 100
Коняга проиграл к сожалению а какие доп выводы ты смог бы сделать из этого файла?

Полный вид строки
"7","105122733","12-03-2012 15:36:19","GB","GB/Plump 12th Mar","Plump","12-03-2012 15:30","2m2f Hcap Hrd","12-03-2012 15:31:33","828995","Just Beware","8","74","319.06","12-03-2012 15:33:59","12-03-2012 15:32:57","0","IP"

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Отредактировано oOo, 30 March 2012 - 12:16.


#36 OFFLINE   kuz

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Добавлено 31 March 2012 - 17:37

А статистика по фаваритам берется перед самым забегом?

#37 OFFLINE   Karakas

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Добавлено 01 April 2012 - 10:47

я так думаю что простым догоном тут не обойтись

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Добавлено 01 April 2012 - 20:07

СообщенияoOo, on 30 March 2012 - 12:16, сказал:

Я думаю вряд ли можно по кэфам найти смысловую нить так как статистика лошадей уже есть в пубичных источниках
Или я не совсем понимаю ход твоих мыслей.

Например файл за последнюю неделю (12th Mar) коняга Just Beware начальный кэф 8 конечный 100
Коняга проиграл к сожалению а какие доп выводы ты смог бы сделать из этого файла?

Полный вид строки
"7","105122733","12-03-2012 15:36:19","GB","GB/Plump 12th Mar","Plump","12-03-2012 15:30","2m2f Hcap Hrd","12-03-2012 15:31:33","828995","Just Beware","8","74","319.06","12-03-2012 15:33:59","12-03-2012 15:32:57","0","IP"

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15:31:33","828995","Just Beware","90","91","119.58","12-03-2012 15:35:37","12-03-2012 15:35:15","0","IP"
15:31:33","828995","Just Beware","100","52","43.46","12-03-2012 15:35:44","12-03-2012 15:35:15","0","IP"
Ну во-первых, здесь у тебя идут кэфы вперемешку как IP, так и PE. Естественно, это ясности не вносит. Во-вторых, по одному только забегу никаких выводов сделать нельзя. Под проходимостью кэфов я понимал следующее:
смотрю определенный диапазон кэфов и процент выигрышей по ним; далее считаю валуй. Так, например, за те 5 недель, которые я анализировал, если брать последнюю ставку в PE, то кэфы в диапазоне от 16,5 до 19 дают валуй в районе 30%. Но все это результаты анализа около 770 забегов за эти 5 недель. А это нерепрезентативная выборка. Поэтому мне и нужна статистика хотя бы за полгода. Надеюсь теперь понятно и кто-нибудь выложит файлы, а то я уже неделю прошу, но почему-то никто помочь не хочет((

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Добавлено 03 April 2012 - 09:22

Сообщенияvovan, on 01 April 2012 - 20:07, сказал:

Надеюсь теперь понятно и кто-нибудь выложит файлы, а то я уже неделю прошу, но почему-то никто помочь не хочет((

Наверное ни кто еще 100 очков кроме админов форума не набил